The Bead Site Chat Archives
December, 1999

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Bonnie:- a41.pm3-53.theriver.com - Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 17:11:22 (EST)
Jade, this is just a suggestion. Have you tried tacky glue, or perhaps some kind of silicone (seal all) comes in a small tube at your local hardware stores and perhaps spray a clear paint over it once it is dry ??!! Good luck, let us know what works. Happy new year Jade

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Jade:- plw46-17.pompano.net - Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 16:05:31 (EST)
I would like to know if there is a certain glue used for attaching beads to either glass objects or ceramic
pieces for decoration, and also do you need to use a sealant so none of the beads fall off the piece. I have been trying all types of glue with no luck.
Please help....

 

Bonnie:- a25.pm3-33.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 12:15:05 (EST)
jETSTAR-ditto to the plastic. But to each their own. I love white hearts, cut beads at the moment. I have been doing alot of amulets. I did one from a picture I always drew in school.Snow capped mountains with the blue sky , clouds birds made in an m way , a river coming from between the two mountains going into a lush green field. The sceen goes all the way around the bag, mountains on front and the sky greeting the fields with a tree. Just a crazy mountain lady. Have a fun day !!! It's cold here. Ame my frozen fingers makes me think of you. Know the kids had a blast though.

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 00:23:14 (EST)
JETSTAR - Now that the holidays are almost over, I don't think I want to dwell on the after-effects of "good plastic"! :-( (It's been fun though...)
PETE - Good plug! :-)

 

 

Pete:- acc-36.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 20:48:34 (EST)
BEEEDZ - But most of the beads I bought at the dollar store were glass. Just saw (on TV) a bridge made from recycled bottles. Indestructable.
JETSTAR - Jay Silverheels, "Tonto," was really my favorite. He died a few years ago. You can also buy books on TheBeadSite.com with good plastic.
~ Peace

 

 

jetstar I:- ip14-87.neto.com - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 19:15:25 (EST)
P.S. Credit cards are also "Good Plastic" you can buy beads over the phone with them!!

 

 

Pete:- acc-73.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 15:16:53 (EST)
Actually, plastic has its place. As it is now 150 years old, there are collectible plastics. Also, since WW II the industrialized countries lost their monopoly on it and developing countries are making interesting plastic beads to suit their own taste. Lastly, two groups in the Phillipines, one in the far north and one in the far south, have been taking rulers, pens, etc. and making platic beads from them. They both started about the same time (1960s), and I am not sure which one started first. The T'boli in the south have developed styles over the years.
I share the general Western aversion to plastic, but it is not all to be shunned.
EMILY - I wrote "Beads of the World" (second edition is just out and will be in the Book Store soon -- got to do that; remind me, BONNIE) so that people could get the general idea from looking at the pictures and reading the captions, could get more by reading the text and could use it for serious study by reading the Notes in the back and following up on the references.
BONNIE - Glass can be tricky, as my page showed. Shops up here are generally expensive (we are way in the mountains and this is a resort town), but the dollar store is often a great buy.
~ Peace

 

 

Bonnie:- a38.pm3-53.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 14:36:14 (EST)
I would hope people who are into the gem, crystal healings would know a plastic bead, glass can be tricky. Gee, you must live where stores are really cheap. I saw a plastic one for $4.99. I guess thats like the beads that arn't "worth anything". To me they are making the plastic ones for the teenagers and if a person wants to believe in the power they should seek more knowledge before buying. Thank you for the article to help them.

 

 

jetstar I:- ip254-26.neto.com - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 10:47:58 (EST)
good morning everyone! Goldstone can often be found at rock shops or gem & mineral shows. Sometimes you can find beads made of it from some wholesalers, too. I like it, it is fascinating to look at.
Pete: I sat down last night and began really reading Beads Of the World(Not just looking at he pictures) It's fascinating, to say th least! Gotta go eat breakfast... Emily

 

 

Pete:- acc-26.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 02:48:07 (EST)
DEBRA - Home page, click on my name or the "story" about me. Welcome back.
SPIRAL-BOUND - Goldstone or aventurine is a type of glass in which small particles of copper are suspended. Invented by Vicenso Miotti of Venice, who was given at patent for it in 1677, it remained a secret of that family (save for one inferior version) until the early 1800s. Several countries now produce it, though the best still comne from Venice, made by the Dalla Venezia family. There are also stones aventurines; they take their name from the glass.
BEEEDS - Glad you weren't really scared.
~ Peace

 

 

mj:- a120.son144.microweb.net - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 02:48:02 (EST)
Spiral-Bound - See chapter 11 of Sibylle Jargstorf's Glass In Jewelry. Goldstone is an alternative name for adventurine glass, she says that it is from the Venice/Murano tradition with the first record of it in 1644. Goldstone enjoyed a big revival in the early & mid-1800's. The color is from tiny flecks of copper in the glass & it was an extremely difficult type of glass to make and work with, as it loses its glitter upon reheating. It is stunning, and much old goldstone can be found in antique stores (at least in my area). Jargstorf's books are in the "Collectible" section of stores and are published by Schiffer(they probably have an on-line catalog). All of them are great references.

 

 

Spiral-Bound:- nohemi.pressenter.com - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 01:44:14 (EST)
Can anyone tell me about GOLDSTONE? I just boungt a stunning pendant and am wondering why you dont
see more of it in stores?

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 21:44:47 (EST)
PETE - Nice new stuff on the site! Can I vote for my favorite picture of Our Webmaster? (Hint - 1972.....SCARY!) Thank you VERY MUCH for the info about thehungersite.com. A friend spammed me with that some time ago, and when I tried to get into it, I got nowhere. So I gave it up as more e-junk. So glad to hear it's not, and I'll check into it daily! You do "good works" on this site, in addition to the great service you provide us beadnuts! Too bad a few have to work so hard to make up for the garbage so many (i.e., hackers) create!

Read your latest on mala power beads. I find it unfortunate that a few money-hungry folks out there have deemed it necessary to do something that ends up casting aspersions on something that can be very real (as in "real" beads with "real power".) I had an experience while holding a Tibetan mala that would've scared the ---- out of me if I had no understanding of the "source"! "If" you are interested, e-mail me and I'll tell you more. I would not kid a professional.

JETSTAR: Happy Kwanza! Just try to remember how "lonely" you will be when WW3 is over!

 

 

BONNIE:- a20.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 21:33:31 (EST)
YEA PETE !! GOT HOME LATE SO I WILL HAVE TO CHECK IT LATER. SWEET BEAD DREAMS EVERYBODY !

 

 

Pete:- acc-43.northnet.org - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 20:16:25 (EST)
AME - Oh, right. I tend to post my calendar and then forget about it. You need to contact the Northwest Bead Society about the workshops. I think they'll let you in. Go to People (above) and then to the list of Bead Societies.
About the home page. When you visit a web page it is usually cached in your own computer, so that you can return to it without having to download it again. As that was all the same session, you got the old home page from your cache until you hit refresh.
STEFANY - What a load of goodies. Would you like to write book reviews for TheBeadSite.com? I've been looking for someone to do this. It could become a regular feature.
MJ - Maybe a review from you on Morris?
JETSTAR I/EMILY - Yes, it's Monday. My sympathetic regards.
ALL WHO HAVE VOTED ON THE FRONT PAGE - Thanks.
ALL - Have you visited TheHungerSite.com? Make it a daily trip.
ANYONE - Need one or more people to put up patterns and techniques of beading. Who would like to help?
~ Peace

 

 

Silver Image:- proxy2-external.roalok1.mi.home.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 20:11:49 (EST)
Hi all...be sure to check out http://members.home.net/powerimage for the largest selection of authentic mineral
Power Bead bracelets.

 

 

jetstar I:- ip15-217.neto.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 19:51:00 (EST)
Ame: I'm into brickstitch earrings with japanese seeds right now. Haven't treated myself to any delicas yet. I also do some bead embroidery, loom-work, and string big beads as well. I just love to look at all the colors, they really energize me. This past year, I've been sewing leather purses and embellishing them with with a variety of textile techniques and beads. Creativity keeps me sane in my nutty household! I'm counting the days till school starts again. Who cares about y2k.... I'll just be glad when WW3 is over here next week!! Emily

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 19:05:54 (EST)
Good afternoon Emily!!
I am one of those parents home with the kids.
LOL
What type of beading do you do??
I do beading with embroidery and tent stitch on canvas.
Hope your grand munchkins don't make you batty!

 

 

jetstar I:- ip254-41.neto.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 14:03:05 (EST)
Good afternoon all. is it really Monday, or some other unidentifiable holidazed day of the week? All I know is the grandkids are still out of school...yesterday seemed like saturday...and I have my days & nights mixed up! Of course 3am is the best time to bead at my house...it's quiet. Stefany, I have a couple of your books and they are really beautifully photographed and written for easily attainable inspiration. Pete, I surveyed the passport photo-gallery, and I vote for the one with the nicely trimmed beard and glasses. Has anyone ever bought a book they already had at home?? I've come very close at times when mail-order shopping. I read a book by Maya Angelou the other week, the first one I've opened in a couple of years that wasn't a bead book. I had to tell the grandkids to cool it... mom's reading a book without pictures in it, I have to concentrate!! Happy Kwanza to all. Emily

 

 

mj:- s244247.microweb.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 12:51:41 (EST)
Stefany - Whatever the price, I expect accurate identification of the pictures, and there are many. It is a beautiful book.
But who needs another impressive looking book to sit on the coffee table half-read? I am not more likely to buy Desmond Morris, but
am curious about what he has to say (anthropology is a longtime love). At least I know his writing is readable. I want something
that I use & refer to again & again (like Beads! Make Your Own Unique Jewellery, or like Pete's Beads Of The World). A good bead
book should not be read only once & then shelved forever, regardless of price. It should be a continuing source of info & inspiration.
Actually, I am hungry & will probably go ahead and order it without waiting for feedback but it did seem appropriate to ask for others' reactions.

 

 

Stefany:- mfs-pci-bqn-vty38.as.wcom.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 10:20:30 (EST)
Sorry: that's Burwell, Cambridgeshire, CB5 0ED, UK.
My email address: StefanyTomalinBeads@compuserve.com for more information. Have a good real present moment between 1999 and 2000, or any past and future!

 

 

Stefany:- mfs-pci-bqn-vty38.as.wcom.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 10:15:02 (EST)
I've got several big new books to review this season, including Lois Dubin's on American Indian adornment, Hannelore Gabriel's Nepalese Jewelry, Angela Fisher and Carol Beckwith's African Ceremonies (my children clubbed together to get this as a megapresent for me for Christmas, bless them!), and the Desmond Morris one mentioned a few messages back. The main reviews are intended for the newsletter of the Bead Society of Great Britain which will come out in Feb, probably. First, though I have to read the things!
One question, exactly what would you expect for your money in a book about amulets? Or are you more likely to buy something just because it is by Desmond Morris?
To join the BSGB from USA, please send by post the annual family subscription (Sterling cheque only for UKĢ10.oo made out to BSGB,) to: Membership Sec, BSGB, 1, Casburn Lane, Burwell Cambs CB5 0ED. Or email me for more info.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 03:12:02 (EST)
Pete twice now I have gone to the home page and it was the old one.
After I hit refresh it changed to the new one. Any ideas?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 03:10:47 (EST)
sorry I missed you.

 

 

Beaderbarb:- spider-wj023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:12:08 (EST)
Hi Ame, I was checking out the free stuff...

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:04:54 (EST)
Pete- Just read your bio anand assorted info.
WOW I am impressed!!! It is a cute pic of you and I am glad the necklace was not preserved.
You didn't tell me your going to be in the area in May!!
Can anyone sign up for your lectures?

 

 

Pete:- acc-35.northnet.org - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:50:27 (EST)
TANTALIZING - If you are looking for books go to the Bookstore (link above) and click on "Beading and Beadwork" there are probably 100 books available, including Goodhue's classic. If you are looking for patterns on the site, I invite everyone to submit some and I'd be pleased to post them.
AY - The Shipwreck people are great.
BEADERBABE - Thanks for your nice comments. Those two are not my favories, but so what?
I am going to be monitoring things all day, between CNN's round the world coverage to what I can find on the Web. I have not heard of a hackers' truce and follow these things pretty carefully. The US Government did ask them to take it easy, but I don't know that any have agreed.
AME- Hi.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:44:07 (EST)
Your still here?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:43:18 (EST)
Barb?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:42:47 (EST)
Hi BeaderBarb- good christmas?
Ay- Shipwreck has great stock. i shop there way to often s<

 

 

Beaderbarb:- spider-wj023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:42:45 (EST)
Tantalizing, my favorite source for chains for necklaces, anklets etc. is Horace Goodhue's book "Indian Beadweaving Patterns"... you will probably find it at your library.

 

 

Beaderbarb:- spider-wj023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:39:36 (EST)
Pete, I just checked out the email article and the link about graphics, they are very helpful, Thanks! Also looked at your pics and miniautobiography... My favorite pics are the one from Bombay in 81 and the Wild Man Of Borneo at age 11 (you are a brave soul to post that one...tee hee). I would like to say that I am in awe of your travels and your persistance, and I am truly thankful to have access to this wonderful website you are taking the time to keep going for us.
Hello to Ame, Bonnie, Beedze, and Emily. I have to say I was neither into cowboys or Startrek, my fantasies were all lived out thru Barbie dolls. We took the heads off the little plastic Beatle dolls and stuck them on some boy (or flat-chested girl) dolls bodies so "we" could hang around with John, Paul, George and Ringo. Of course we gave our girl dolls earrings made of seed beads attached to their ears by a straight pin ... ouch. Barbie was the mom, and we identified with Skipper... the long blonde hair, ya know.

I am a little paranoid about being online during the Milleneum festivities, but I read that the hackers are calling a truce, not to do anything destructive on Dec. 31 or Jan. 1 because there will be enough problems as it is. But I don't know if I believe that, since when are hackers so thoughtful? I am totally addicted to the net so will probably get online. Pete, let us know if there are some special happenings you know about in advance.

 

 

Ay:- 1cust53.tnt3.topeka.ks.da.uu.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:32:42 (EST)
has anyone gotten beads from shipwreck?

 

 

Tantalizing16:- pdt-178-178.oregontrail.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:24:02 (EST)
Does anyone know of a place on here where I can find easy patterns for seed bead necklaces?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 00:35:27 (EST)
poor Pete... I feel for your loss .
Azz sorry your ill hope youu feel better soon.

 

 

Pete:- acc-59.northnet.org - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 22:04:15 (EST)
EVERYONE - Whole new set of pages. Take some time to explore the home page. Help fight world hunger. Grab some free CDs (road map, encyclopedia, software, games, etc.) Please take part in the Vote to help me serve you better.
BONNIE - I promised.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-59.northnet.org - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 21:42:16 (EST)
BONNIE - It will be up in about 10 minutes.
TV PEOPLE - There wasn't any TV around us until I was 7 and our family didn't get one until I was in the 4th grade. All the other kids chatted about something they had seen the night before and I felt so let out. Sniff, sniff.
~ Peace

 

 

Azz Kicker Yelle:- yktnsk01d01040125.sk.sympatico.ca - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 21:41:56 (EST)
Sick@!!!!!

 

 

AME:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 20:37:35 (EST)
Bri -WHAT??
Jetstar
I grew up with tv but we weren't allowed to watch it until after 5 pm so we also were creative.
I started with embroidery and am still very good at it but moved to beads after discovering their beauty.
Now I combine the two.

 

 

jetstar I:- ip14-76.neto.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 20:13:15 (EST)
As we were deprived of TV as kids, I learned to entertain myself inventively...my mom & I made faces in the bathroom mirror...I learned to sew.... and at last in my mellow middle years BEADS (also books about beads) who needs Tv? (my football-addicted hubby, of course) But then again he went to jewery school at my suggestion... and finished, too! I dropped out to work on my beads...after catching my hair on fire learning to solder.

 

 

Bri:- quantum.dupras.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:52:54 (EST)
Pete was holding her tonight!!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:06:30 (EST)
Bonnie
What's with the cowbelle Your new nickname??
Mine was deemed Imp at the family xmas.... I wonder why?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:04:52 (EST)
I really must work on my editing skills
Should that be my new years resolution??
My class strarts again in 3 weeks!!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 19:03:28 (EST)
Pete - Who me cruel?Although on my other posting board they did name me Ame the Bad I have no idea why. ( Sheepish innocent smile)
nah , just inventive and right brained besides he didn't run home and qiute playing did he?
Bonnie Your to bright to let those gloomies get you dwon remember the pitying looks you must give them...
I am not a traiter simply a woman of many talents and tastes.....
Jet star - You have a wonderful fun personality if they don't lin't like it they can lump it.

 

 

Bonnie/Cowbelle:- a25.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 18:11:12 (EST)
Jetstar, you are funny ! And never be anyone but yourself. Afterall what matters deep inside is that "we" like us , the rest goes hand in hand. If you can't like a spiritually happy person then that person doesnt like themselves....I have in-laws, they've taught me alot . LOL

 

 

Bonnie/Cowbelle:- a25.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 18:06:20 (EST)
AME YOU TRADER ANOTHER "TREKKIE" FAN. BEAD HAPPY OUR FAIR LADY.

 

 

Bonnie/Cowbelle:- a25.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 18:02:21 (EST)
PETE, Holding you to that now,"tonight"...now don't let that be like my few minutes. LOL, we'll never see it in that case. Already saw your other site on them, many moons ago.
All: Hope St. Nick was good to you and filled your stockings with beads, and beads, and beads......and some needle and thread would be nice too !!~PEACE BE WITH YOU ~

 

 

Pete:- acc-77.northnet.org - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 17:49:28 (EST)
JOHN - Sounds interesting.
AME - Why, you cruel thing.
MJ - Haven't read it. Thanks for letting us know. It will be interesting to see what he has to say.
~ Peace

 

 

mj:- 207-136-167-66.dialup.microweb.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 17:12:58 (EST)
Has anyone read or seen a review (by bead folk) of Desmond
Morris' new book, Body Guards? It is attractive & looks at
amulets talismans & beads, probably from an anthropological
viewpoint, as he is something of a pop anthropologist. Only
in hardcover, $30 in stores or approx. $21 at Amazon. I am
eager to read it but don't want to be way disappointed.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 16:06:27 (EST)
You have no idea!!
VVBS<
Thanks all.
I was the Star Wars fan , my littlesis and I would dress up and I was lea and she was Han
We made this poor kid across the streeet be chewbaka. Probably gave him something to tell his shrink about .
"Well you see Dr. I keep feeling this need to roar and wave my hands"

 

 

john:- proxy-318.public.rwc.webtv.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 14:49:53 (EST)
my company is looking for pyrex bead makers to make our custom designed beads full time work, large volume, work from your home studio, small company e-mail if interested in finding out more at BodyBeads@webtv.com

 

 

Pete:- acc-12.northnet.org - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 13:23:14 (EST)
JETSTAR I - Ah. Covert H.C. fans. Maybe we win at the end.
BONNIE - There is a story about Mala beads out there (see the home page) another one will be up toniight or tomorrow.
~ Peace

 

 

Jetstar I:- ip15-153.neto.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 12:54:23 (EST)
Good morning beady friends! Bonnie, there's always candlelight to bead by (with the 20mm ones of course!) Pete, I am also a big Hoppalong fan, in '51 or '52 when all my neighborhood friends in Cowtown usa (FT. Worth) played C&I I was always Hoppy 'cause I couldn't run as fast as they did...was it prophecy??? I just had my 2nd knee replacement on the left leg. Are beadere left or right brain people?? or is it simply intuition and karma flowing through us? Beeedz: thanks for the encouragement to be myself! happy day!

 

 

Bonnie:- a32.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 12:24:11 (EST)
Beeedz, what scares me about Y2K is if I have to go withoout electricity for a day or two I won't be able to see to bead at night. Also hope there are no bumps in the night or we'll all be playing "pick up beads"

 

 

:- a32.pm3-31.theriver.com - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 12:17:14 (EST)
I knew that was who you were going to say !! I was also the "outcast" as I always wanted to play "Cowboys and Indians" and the other kids wanted to play "Star Trek".Cowboys are alright, but if you live the life you also find the majority of them don't like losing and "know it all". I wear my own kind of hat. I was raised in Durango, Colo. where "history" ago my black mare, Smokey and I did the big rodeo's, won Navaho Trails Fiesta Queen and also rode with the "Durango Gunslinger's" putting on the old west acts. But never a cowgirl. So where is the story on the mala braclets. They are so popular it seems everywhere. I've already voiced my opinion, but would love to hear yours. I am a firm believer if you beieve in something and really want it in your heart you can achieve it. Well sanity is reappearing after the Christmas hustle so everybody go out and live a wonderful life today as our next countdown ticks on. ~PEACE BE WITH YOU ~

 

 

Pete:- acc-47.northnet.org - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 02:30:49 (EST)
BONNIE - I wasn't trying to "label" you anything. I was just missing any mention of the greatest cowboy EVER! HOPALONG CASSIDY. (What a name.)
All right, I have confessed. It made me an outcast at one point in my life because Roy was the favorite of everyone else. Guess it showed by stubborn streak early. Now I have no idea what my attraction to him was.
However, even if I had meant to label you as a cowgirl, it would not have been perjorative. I grew up in the middle of Kansas among cowboys I admired. Haven't done all you have done, but I grew up with horses and at least rode and groomed them. My hometown had Buffalo Bill Cody, Wild Bill Hickcok and Wyatt Earp as law-keepers at one time or the other. It was also (when I was growing up) the largest city in the US with an all-volunteer fire department and the smallest with two independent (weekly) newspapers.
JETSTAR - About a week an a half ago members of the Rajah Sabah (India's upper house of parliament) began demanding that all Y2K problems be fixed. Someone emailed me an even better bulletin. An Indonesian official said that they were watching the Solomons and New Zealand carefully and that if anything happened they would have six full hours to straighten out their systems.
AME - Did this bring you more laughs?
~ Peace

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 02:22:50 (EST)
jetstar I (Emily): After reading your first posting, I was going to tell you I like the way you think. After reading your second posting, I'm going to tell you I REALLY like the way you think.

Here's wishing us all the wisdom to believe in peace, ethnic diversity, one day at a time, beads, and the courage and strength to share our light with ALL our brothers and sisters regardless of what their "truth" may be.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 26, 1999 at 01:40:14 (EST)
LOl
You folks are funny.
I SURVIVED!!!!!!! HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!

 

 

jetstar I:- ip15-149.neto.com - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 23:15:14 (EST)
just returned from the family christmas gathering...got away just in time...the family doom-gloomer started raving and ranting about y2k..new world order etc....oh PUHLEEZ! I shut him up, though I told him that he'd be better off believing in beads, peace, ethnic diversity ,and one day at a time. there's one in every family... they exist to make life kinky for everyone. I'm going to buy him a Furby to talk to when they go on 1/2 price!!! Happy returning tomorrow, the 2nd worst day in the retail year!! peace & love Emily

 

 

Bonnie:- a41.pm3-53.theriver.com - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 19:56:09 (EST)
Pete, Never judge a book by it's cover. I have broke, trained, showed, raced..you name it I can or have done it with a horse..except "cattle abuse" in which they call Ropin'.( my husband is the roper in this family) But please don't try label who I am, definately not a cowgirl.I am a person with many loves and virtues.one word could never discribe me unless I get you mad.....LOL

 

 

:- a41.pm3-53.theriver.com - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 19:49:20 (EST)
Right on Jetstar !!
PETE, Had the chance to meet my favorite singing cowboy, the great "Roy Rogers". One of my now day favorites of the cattle day music is "Micheal Martin Murphy" quite the nice man...kissed my hand. Sang Wildfire back in "73. Then there is folk, Arlo Guthrie ???? Oh I give up, tell us already !!

 

 

Pete:- acc-48.northnet.org - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 17:42:50 (EST)
EMILY - I will personally guarantee that beads will survive Y2K. Look at what else they have survived. Thanks for your message.
MICHAEL - I assume you are talking about flower petals. There are a number of recipies. Some of those that I have, I have tried without much success. Can anyone help.
COWBOYS - No one has mentioned my favorite, the one I was going to grow up to become. Maybe it dates me.
~ Peace

 

 

Michael Switlik:- ppp-208-15-96-21.ltrkar.swbell.net - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 14:33:59 (EST)
I am trying to find info how to make beads out of flowers.
Could anyone out there help me.

 

 

jetstar I:- ip14-77.neto.com - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 09:37:35 (EST)
Merry Christmas to all, happy trails to Rex Allen, and Don't forget Bob Wills another singing, fiddling cowboy saint. It's sunny & bright here in Tx on this Christmas morning, a fine day to count our beads and blessings! I'm so glad to find people who "get it" about the passionate pursuit of beads... sometimes you must go afar to find someone near in spirit. guess what?? y2k is next week the only disaster that would really shake me is if the bead supply dries up... now that would truly be the end of the world!!! peace and happy beading to all, gotta go watch grandkids demolish the loot under the tree. Emily

 

 

Pete:- acc-9.northnet.org - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 02:53:45 (EST)
BeaderBabe - Right. We'll go on the second week in January.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 01:31:13 (EST)
MERRY CHHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!

 

 

BeaderBarb:- spider-tj052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 01:19:50 (EST)
...not a creature was stirring, except for my mouse... A Very Merry Christmas to you all. My computer has been dead for almost a week, so I couldn't come to chat last Sunday. It's always something. I've only had the computer 2 months! Well, now I have a new power supply and hopefully the last.
Pete, if you are going to be online during the millenium festivities, be sure to wear your mala/power bracelet.

 

 

Pete:- acc-1.northnet.org - Friday, December 24, 1999 at 21:08:54 (EST)
AME - It's OK. I understand.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 24, 1999 at 01:52:38 (EST)
Pete
I meant that in a nice way!!!
Honest!!!

 

 

Pete:- acc-18.northnet.org - Friday, December 24, 1999 at 01:38:48 (EST)
HELEN - Quick, email me some more time!
AME - Thanks, I guess.
~ Peace

 

 

Helen:- spider-wm041.proxy.aol.com - Friday, December 24, 1999 at 00:31:47 (EST)
Merry Christmas everybody! Hope you get everything you want, especially great stretches of time to do what you love

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 21:52:20 (EST)
Pete
LOL
Your a witty fellow!
Happy Holiday mr. scrouge!
I am just kidding!
I know your far to even tempered to be scrouge.
May the peace and joy of this season give you pleasure.

 

 

Pete:- acc-28.northnet.org - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 20:32:03 (EST)
AME and BEADMAN - Yes, I thought of those, too, though after I had posted. Thanks for posting the info.
MARY - If it is the article in BEADS you want, you can buy it here. Click on Book Store above.
BONNIE - Not only skiers, but skaters, etc. Lake Placid was the site for the 1932 and 1980 Olympic Winter Games and is the training station for the US Olympic Winter teams.
ALL - Merry Christmas if that is your thing (or even if it's not).
~ Peace

 

 

Bonnie:- a4.pm3-33.theriver.com - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 11:51:25 (EST)
Merry Christ mas to all !!!
Pete, I would never try to escape the cowboy heroes afterall they influenced me to be who I am today. Lake Placid probably has ski heroes...fell out of a ski lift at Purgatory..thought I had landed in hell. Boy, did that hurt.LOL Hope Santa is good to you.
Ame, bead happy...it's about over our fair lady. Working with three color cut beads and may have my last gift done in time yet !!
Everybody I wish us all the best as we await the year "2000"
~MAY PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL !!~

 

 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com:- ts024d34.sjc-ca.concentric.net - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 08:19:42 (EST)
Mary - Valerie had an article in BEADS, the Journal of the Society of Bead Researchers: http://www.e-bead.com/SBR.HTM#Journal. However, this was about Asian beadwork, not her own beadwork. I'm sure there are other articles about her work, but not that I can put my hands on at the moment.

Happy Christmas everyone! Jamey

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 02:14:44 (EST)
Maybe beadwork mag??
You to Pete

 

 

Pete:- acc-29.northnet.org - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 01:15:55 (EST)
AME - Oh, yes, the inventor. Have a good New Years.
BONNIE - I see, so you can't escape Rex Allen even if you wanted to. Lake Placid is like that with old Olymic heros.
MARY - Can anyone help her? But I don't think the magazine would have been called "Bead." Beads and Buttons?
~ Peace

 

 

Mary Gantzos:- 98ad4f1b.ipt.aol.com - Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 10:09:26 (EST)
Does anyone know the dates that Valerie Hector had articles demonstrating her necklaces in Bead magazine. thank you.

 

 

Bonnie:- a23.pm3-53.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 00:54:17 (EST)
Rex Allen might take one back in time. Here we have a parade every year with country music and a huge celbration is his honor. Of corse called "Rex Allen days". There will be a celebration of his life Jan. 8th in Wilcox, Az. Have a good evening all. Dream beads ame !!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 23:46:33 (EST)
Pete
Q was/ is the crazy man that invented all the coolBond gadgets.
I think they won't have a Q anymore they will have a R now.
He was in 15 of the 17 movies starting way back in 1966.
He was also a wonderful human being!
Glad we can offer you some enjoyment of the holidays! VBS<
I plan on being downtown on the New years No WAY will I be in my living room!
It's also one of my sis's bdays so we have a double celebration1

 

 

Pete:- acc-136.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 21:43:34 (EST)
AME and BONNIE - Q? Can't say that I have seen too many bBond flicks. Was he the boss? Rex Allen. Now, there's a name I haven't heard for a long, long time.

I enjoy watching your anticipation of Christmas. I don't get terribly excited about holidays, and there are no kids around (there were last year when my brother visited from Australia). We are going to the local Hilton (yes, Lake Placid has a Hilton) for their great buffet in the middle of the day. I'll probably be back to work that night.

My favorite holiday is New Years. The year I intend to monitor the Y2K bug around the globe on TV and the Web.
~ Peace

 

 

Bonnie:- a16.pm3-45.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 20:26:29 (EST)
Did somebody mention tea....That sounds like a nice way to end a long day with the beading tray and the new amulet. Christmas sure has our fingers going. For me Ame....G
Pete are you ready for the Christmas countdown ?

 

 

Bonnie:- a16.pm3-45.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 20:21:45 (EST)
Yes, we had a great loss to our area. One of the last great "singing cowboys",actor, and narator of alot of Disney films passed on friday. REX ALLEN......He has a wonderful museum in Wilcox, his home town. Happy trails Mr. Allen & Koko (his horse)

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:30:22 (EST)
Yes, I admit it I am a Bond Fan..... not very peaceful is it?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:28:58 (EST)
Pete-
Q died!!
He was my favorite Bond characecter.
Bonds may come and go but Q was always the same.
I will miss him in this world.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:27:13 (EST)
No Bonnie
Working on a present for YOU!
So there!! HA !
Yes , they are skating the edges of my copeing ability but I really do love them.
Well most of the time!
S<
Pete You are a nice guy ....PEACE - JOY- and a good cup of tea!!
Darlene don't forget about fetishes... many believe they have the power of the animal in them ...I think I read that some where anyway. S<

 

 

Bonnie:- a29.pm3-32.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:15:18 (EST)
Ame,
You better be beading young lady ! Or do the munchkins have you going every which way with the big count down going on ??

 

 

Bonnie:- a29.pm3-32.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 11:12:47 (EST)
Pete, heck I thought he was long dead. Your few days are like my "few minutes" that takes a "few days" .LOL
Darlene, there is the "power of suggestion" if you know or believe in the healing properties of stones thats all it will take.You could be effected by somebodies negative input so if you buy a true stone one ( not the plastic ) ..just believe in it. Sometimes not even thinking about it makes miracles happen. Went to a crystal healer, yes I believe. MAY PEACE BE WITH YOU ~..ALL..

 

 

Pete:- acc-32.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 01:32:49 (EST)
BONNIE - And Charles Schultz is retiring. Where will we get out supplies of "good grief" from now on?
DARLENE: Take your choice: mala, power, energy, prayer, Buddha, Zen. There is a story about them on the home page now. Don't buy any until you read the follow-up in a day or two.
~Peace

 

 

darlene:- spider-tf011.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 00:40:52 (EST)
what do you call the braclets that have meaning assoicated with the beads?

 

 

Bonnie:- a33.pm3-32.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 22:31:02 (EST)
Pete, for heavens sake no but you have to remember the "bullein board" for serious beaders comments. Perhaps it was just "Jurgens" sense of humor ?? Good grief Charlie Brown we like your "chat site" without needing to be too "serious"
Ame, no need to thank, unless the truth hurts. "I" thank you

 

 

Pete:- acc-113.northnet.org - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 20:39:37 (EST)
BONNIE - Good grief. You want me to put up another one? As long as its not porn or hate I don't really care what you chat about.
AME - I am, too.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 19:54:54 (EST)
Thank you for the lovely compliment Bonnnie.
Pete- Thanks for giving me this great place to discuss bead and other things.
I am very happy I joined.

 

 

Bonnie:- a36.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 18:25:59 (EST)
Wow, talk about a typo error, how did that happen....Sorry Pete.....PEACE, just the same !!

 

 

Bonnie:- a36.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 18:24:31 (EST)
Pete, going back alot of chats perhaps "Beeds" needs to know that their are alot of people going to this site that are from the U.S. and here in the Southwest Indian beads would mean what it says. Not items beaded up in "Native American" style. I hope this helps them to advertise their work as it should be. THANK YOU !!! A frind of Nino Cochise's.

 

 

Bonnie:- a36.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 18:20:38 (EST)
OOPS, TYPO...FRIEND..HE LIVED TO BE OVER 100 AND RESIDED IN TOMBSTONE, AZ.

 

 

Bonnie:- a36.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 18:16:50 (EST)
Pete, going back alot of chats perhaps "Beeds" needs to know that their are alot of people going to this site that are from the U.S. and here in the Southwest Indian beads would mean what it says. Not items beaded up in "Native American" style. I hope this helps them to advertise their work as it should be. THANK YOU !!! A frind of Nino Cochise's.

 

 

Bonnie:- a36.pm3-24.theriver.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 17:58:02 (EST)
Pete, glad to see that you and the other "serious bulletin board" folks realize chat is fun and perhaps you can learn from others too or just share a smile. I mean it was quite funny when Jurgen was commenting about talking "meat" and not beads on the chat site. Perhaps you need a site that is called "Bulletin" for those who only prefer to talk their bead related items and leave the "chat"site as it is. God bless Ame, she helped make this site what it should be......"FUN" Thanks Ame, Beederbarb, Beeedz, Debra and all the other "bored" folks (as I was once called here) who add to our lives with sharing themselves, projects, etc. to this chat room. I WISH YOU PEACE......and will still be here in the year 2000.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 23:04:54 (EST)
Pete-
So glad your not into that garbage.
We will probably have some problems but not enough to end the world as we know it.
To misqoute REM...S<

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 23:02:25 (EST)
You should write to the discovery mag and tell them that.

 

 

Pete:- acc-62.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 22:53:31 (EST)
AME - They found working sites in Honduras. I don't think any genuine archaeologist believes Greeks brought civilization to the Americas. The Olmes predate the glory of Greece. I am positive, and I don't believe it will be the end of the world. Remember, I said the second Sunday. But there are sure to be bugs.
BEEEDZ - Well, we'll have to see next time, won't we?
QUARTZ - There are many colors. Yellow jade is "Imperial jade" reserved (just like yellow clothes) for the Emperor alone. The green jade we associate with the stone comes mostly from Myanmar (Burma). [The American variety is jadeite, as opposed to Chinese nephrite.] The typical jade in ancient China was "mutton fat" white.
~ Peace

 

 

quartz:- lwc143.ixks.com - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 21:27:21 (EST)
hi Pete
I know that jade comes in more then the color green,
I would like to know if one of the colors is yellow
or "Butterscotch"
thanks

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 21:15:06 (EST)
LOL
Thats funny Beedz!

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 21:07:34 (EST)
Pete, One more thing, it will be interesting to see if the site didn't crash because the problem is repaired, or if it didn't crash because of low traffic. Happy Holidays!

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 21:06:30 (EST)
Hi Pete! Sorry I was unable to get here earlier. I was doing the "mall thing". ICK! It's always a real pleasure people-watching this time of year, their "holiday spirit" manifests itself in quite interesting ways!

Ame: I think Pete was only kidding about "gloom and doom and chaos," (please, Pete, tell me you don't believe that stuff!) I think it's a big marketing ploy!

Hope everyone out there has had, is having, or will be having a wonderful holiday!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 20:31:46 (EST)
Whats this about darkness gloom and chaos??
I think it will be fine!
Think positive!
S<

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 20:13:46 (EST)
I found the idea of the bead origins in mesoamerica on Honduras interesting.
How did they establish this idea?
Lat I saw they believed most of the central american concepts came from greece traders.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 20:12:10 (EST)
This is why its the evil empire!!
They don't give alot of info to me, but I do ask!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 20:11:21 (EST)
Pete
I did what John suggested.
There is no 'about' part of the help menu.
I looked at eqipment and FAQ's but there was NO INFO on that subject!

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:34:25 (EST)
I am not really surprised that no one is here (or at least willing to participate) given the time of the year. We'll try again in January. Not on the first Sunday, of course, as darkness, gloom and chaos will be reigning, but maybe the second.
Best Season's Greetings to you all, whatever holiday you are celebrating (or have just celebrated).
~ Peace
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:27:54 (EST)
OK. I'll check with her. She is not here today (only you and I are), but we also email each other all the time.
~ Peace

 

 

:- quince.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:26:17 (EST)
PETE- Yes Netscape and Microsoft have tools that you can use to recompile their programs to diplay different logos
and for changing the page accessed by the search buttons.

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:23:02 (EST)
And another thing. Recent excavations in Honduras have shown that many objects, including ornaments of jade and shell, that had been connected with the Olmec civilization relatively far to the north in Mexico around Veracruz were actually manufactured in Honduras. The Olmecs (we do not know their real name) built the first civilization in Mesoamerica (Mexico + Central America). These new discoveries show that 1.) Not all Olmec traits originated in what was considered their heartland and 2.) The connections between the Olmec and other people was much wider than once believed. I just had to tell someone.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:14:01 (EST)
So, I can ruminate. After nearly 450 years, the tiny Portuguese colony of Macao, the first European foothold in China, was handed back to China today. The Friday Financial Times concluded, "European colonialism may have had its moments in Asia, but in Macao on Sunday night (local time), it will go out with a wimper." Neat place to visit and the hydrofoil ride is amazing.

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:08:08 (EST)
JOHN - I knew there was some way to find this info. What do you mean by a "branded copy of one of the browsers"? Is it likely to be NN or IE customized for the particular ISP?
~

 

 

:- quince.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 16:05:31 (EST)
Ah, Yes. shes using a branded copy of one of the browsers.
What needs to be done is while in the browser click on help and then about. This will give the program name and version #
That trick will work for finding the version of 99% of all programs.

 

 

Pete:- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 15:58:42 (EST)
I'm back. John, do you see the descriptiobn of the browser logo from AME about 5 messages down?
~ Peace

 

 

Pete :- acc-68.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 15:46:19 (EST)
We're going to try the chat line again at 4 pm EST (in about 15 minutes). Tech-wizard John is not only standing by at the ISP, but is monitoring us. If something happens, give him ten minutes of so and we should be back up. You do not need to email me in panic. I am aware of what is happening. See you (be back in about 10).
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 12:35:59 (EST)
Lizard = I get into those slumps espeacially after several speacil orders, and I ave to work through them!
But eventually they turn around and I see in a picture exactly what I want to make.

 

 

Lizard:- 102.colorado-springs-03-04rs.co.dial-access.att.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 11:17:25 (EST)
I am in a terrible slump and can't manage to get moving on anything. I love to bead, but don't feel creative anymore. Of course, the distractions of the season don't help, and I work 40 hrs. a week, and drive 10 to get there. Help!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 02:12:30 (EST)
They call it a wave.

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 02:12:06 (EST)
No nothing.
Only the worldgate emblem of a swirling backwords 'S'.
Not anything I recognise from other systems.

 

 

Pete:- acc-28.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 01:35:29 (EST)
All are invited to chat on Sunday, 4 pm EST (US). Keep your fingers crossed.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-28.northnet.org - Sunday, December 19, 1999 at 01:34:54 (EST)
BONNIE - I thought he was selling beads from India ("Indian beads"), As people outside the US would usually say "American Indian" or, as in India, "Red Indian" for Native Americans.
BEADERBABE - No need to scroll down so much. Every month I archive things. I did the smaller font as an experiment, but I am not sure how to make it permanent for new messages. Smaller font is sometimes harder for people to read.
AME - Excite is a portal, not a browser. Do you have a little icon in the upper right? Is it a globe or a big N?
~Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 21:51:46 (EST)
Pete
I was told they use excite.
What ever that means!!

 

 

BeaderBarb:- spider-ta085.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 18:55:49 (EST)
Pete, the font on here shows up smaller on messages posted Dec. 12 than it does now. I would prefer the smaller font, it is very readable and requires less scrolling.

 

 

BeaderBarb:- spider-ta085.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 18:51:03 (EST)
Also forgot to say that I vote yes to keep the archives for as long as possible, and yes to editing short unrelated messages.

 

 

BeaderBarb:- spider-ta085.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 18:49:21 (EST)
Hi All, first time I have gotten in since last Sunday. I will try again tomorrow, and hope we have better luck. What happened to me was I went back 2000 messages to see what's been talked about and my connection timed out. It would load the page about 38% before this happened, very slowly after about 30%. Thanks, Pete for sticking with it, I would love to be able to chat once a week with all of you.

 

 

Bonnie:- a25.pm3-45.theriver.com - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 15:49:58 (EST)
Beads, also it is very decieving. The beadwork looks nice but I thought by the way you talked about it that you were selling "indian beads" Not (plastic ?) beads done in Native American style. Just an opinion on your wording.

 

 

Ginna:- 1cust96.tnt22.chi5.da.uu.net - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 07:38:51 (EST)
Looking for lmm metal beads - color gray - repairing a turn-of the century beaded bag. Any help??

 

 

Pete:- acc-41.northnet.org - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 01:39:09 (EST)
AME - No, your browser is more likely a version of Internet Explorer or Netscape. I'd like to know which one and which version number.
BEADS - Hi. But, you really shouldn't use this chat line for advertising. Link up with us (form at the top of People link is above) or become a regular advertiser. That will being visitors to your site.
~ Peace

 

 

beads:- 202.101.153.192 - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 11:58:16 (EST)
Hi,all, Need fashion Buddha Bracelet? Need Indian Beads?
Okay, visit us at: http://www.bcity.com/brilliant

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 01:42:28 (EST)
Please do edit them
Wouldn't life be nice if we could do that r/t?
S

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 01:41:13 (EST)
Pete
No I don't just 1 BIG one.
I am using the evil empire otherwise known as worldgate.
Thatts why it looks really big to me!! Doesn't even all fit on the tv

 

 

Pete:- acc-18.northnet.org - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 01:23:23 (EST)
AME and BEEEDZ - Thanks for your input. Anyone else? Guess who I'll edit out of today's postings?
AME - You don't have two "Display the Last" windows? What browser are you using?
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 17, 1999 at 00:36:58 (EST)
Pete
I don't even have a bottom thing.
Please edit away!! Thats a reasonable thing to do!

 

 

:- a46.pm3-28.theriver.com - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 23:53:13 (EST)
LOL, A BUNCH OF "KNOBS".......

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 23:32:14 (EST)
Pete: I think it would be okay to edit the archives and take out "inconsequential" postings. I do, however, enjoy going back and looking at specifics about beads.

Bottomfluff: Apparently, you are in the wrong site. Appears you are looking for cybersex and you won't get it here. This is a clean chat line, for people interested in the study and use of beads as ornamentation, not as toys; as well as for people who have or are seeking information about the use of beads in jewelry. You will find this site quite boring.

 

 

bottomfluff:- zoom.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 22:04:18 (EST)
what exactly is this site for

 

 

bottomfluff:- zoom.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 22:02:41 (EST)
So wheres the circumcision happening

 

 

bottomfluff:- saturn.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 22:00:32 (EST)
Answer me ya bunch of knobs!

 

 

bottomfluff:- zoom.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 21:58:56 (EST)
i just shot some night owls! whoops

 

 

bottomfluff:- saturn.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 21:57:24 (EST)
do you guys wear glasses?

 

 

bottomfluff:- zoom.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 21:56:04 (EST)
i love beads if i was 18 gay and had a job

 

 

bottomfluff:- saturn.starwon.com.au - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 21:53:09 (EST)
gits you all are

 

 

Pete:- acc-30.northnet.org - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 21:32:35 (EST)
EVERYONE - We're going to try it on Sunday 4 pm EST. A lot of you will not be there, but maybe others will. It is the Shopping season for many people, but John from my ISP will be available. I'll hang around for at least a half an hour.

QUESTION - I have been archiving, taking out all the love-sick messages. Do I have your permission to take out short messages from regulars that don't really add anything? I'll keep anything that looks important. OK?

REMINDER: Use the bottom of the two "Display the last" counters. We'll eliminate one. John thinks it's fun trying to figure out what is wrong.

AME - We'll miss you. No, the size of the page is the same, though it has been formatted a little differently.

BEEEDZ - Yes, I am a Night Owl. That is in this part of the world. In India I am in bed at 11 and up at 6.

JHAN - Hope you can make it.

~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 16:45:03 (EST)
Pete did the dimensions of the page enlarge??

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 16:43:36 (EST)
I just found out a family commitmient is on Sun
I won't be able to make it!
Sob
BOOHOO

 

 

Jhan:- ospreysystems.com - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 08:45:14 (EST)
I missed the chat Sunday, don't know if I would be able to do it this Sunday, but I can try.
I don't tend to get on the computer much after work or on weekends. Our son keeps us pretty busy.

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 02:00:39 (EST)
Pete, By the way, I think another take at chatting would be great. But due to the rapidly advancing celebrations, I may be stuck in a mall somewhere. ICK!!!

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 01:58:46 (EST)
Hi Pete, You're a Night Owl! I was just about to give my opinion that you should dump the archives, when I decided to look at them again, and found about three intriguing links. So personally I'd say, don't dump them. (However, I still think it would be nice to dump the cybersex messages.....)

 

 

Pete:- acc-35.northnet.org - Thursday, December 16, 1999 at 01:49:57 (EST)
Are you willing to try it again? General chat at 4 pm EST this Sunday.
Use the bottom "Display the last" counter to change the number of chats you display. We have yet to figure out why there are two.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:30:56 (EST)
4:00 est ?
Thats ok with me.

 

 

:- quince.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 17:55:18 (EST)
test

 

 

john r:- quince.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 17:25:09 (EST)
test

 

 

John R.:- quince.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 17:06:44 (EST)
Test

 

 

:- quince.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 16:04:27 (EST)
test

 

 

Pete:- acc-72.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 15:01:04 (EST)
DEBRA - Yes, and I did it myself after discussing it with the techie at our ISP. There are still some flukes, but I'll get to them.
Most turquoise is coated (and it goes deeper than just the surface) with a resin (read plastic) because the material is friable (breaks easily). You are rarely told when it is stabilized.
AME - I guess same time, unless other people have a different time.
~ Peace

 

 

debra:- lwc117.ixks.com - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 13:34:47 (EST)
It works again!!! I almost gave up.
and I have a silly thing to ask, there were some turquoise
beads on ebay and in the description it said that they were
not stablized, what did they mean by that?
Also have more ideas about amulet bags, making one that
looks like an ikat weaving only with beads.
I'am sorry I did not really get to talk to anyone on sunday
next time maybe?

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 12:36:42 (EST)
HAPPY HOLIDAYS OUT THERE!!!

i HOPE THEY ARE SPENT WITH LOVE AND JOY!!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 12:35:25 (EST)
Same bat time same bat channel?

 

 

Pete:- acc-39.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 01:31:44 (EST)
That is (I must have gotten tired of this): Those choices up there...
~

 

 

Pete:- acc-39.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 01:30:39 (EST)
Ame - Welcome back. Those choices us here just reflect the contents of TheBeadSite.com.
And yes, why not next Sunday? What time do people want?
~ Peace

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 22:35:36 (EST)
Thanks Pete for trying so hard
I appreciate it!

 

 

Ame:- robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 22:34:16 (EST)
Holy Hannah!
Look at all those lovely choices up there!
Are we going to try it again on Sun?

 

 

Pete:- acc-22.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 22:01:50 (EST)
It all seems to be working now.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-22.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 21:53:21 (EST)
Well, it is working again. I am still not sure about everything, including the two "display the last" boxes, but I'll check that out tomorrow. Fonts are also different, but I'm not going to worry about them right now. I did get m ore links at the top. I am learningmore about this.
I have archived October and November, taking out the love-lorn and dirty mouths.
How valuable are these archives? I'd really like input on that.
Thanks
~ Peace

 

 

Pete:- acc-22.northnet.org - Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 21:51:04 (EST)
Testing.

 

 

Pete
would you get the email now or later?
has anyone seen the mag Ornament? I buy it all the time

 

 

 

Pete:- acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:43:04 (EST)
Dead air?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:43:03 (EST)
Being in tune with me can be dangerous to your sanity or so my DH says.
S<

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:41:35 (EST)
Debra BeaderBarb
Whas been happenin in your worlds?

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:41:12 (EST)
AME - OK. I'm back in tune with you.

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:40:39 (EST)
DEBRA - Send me an email through the Office (a form for emailing me) at any link that says "contact us." I'll be glad to correspond privately. If you don't mind. There is a contact link on virtua lly every page. Not this one, though.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:40:37 (EST)
I was referring to the folks looking for a lovely young female to talk with

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:39:27 (EST)
I called my library and asked the information lady
We have a qiuck info desk
I gave her the facts and she confirmed thats the story put forth

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:38:59 (EST)
AME - What?

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:38:50 (EST)
Pete
can I have your email address?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:38:07 (EST)
Thats what I thought but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask.
The poor folks looking for love in all the wrong places!!
VBS<

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:37:37 (EST)
AME - How did you verify it?

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:37:11 (EST)
Hi Debra, This has been slow to start, but is now more lively. Has everyone seen my note in case of a crash. There is someone standing by at my ISP.

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:36:38 (EST)
Hello Pete, Ame and Beaderbarb!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:36:31 (EST)
Pete I found outthe hands story was true.

 

 

beaderbarb: - spider-wa071.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:36:16 (EST)
I went back 50 msgs and looks like guys looking for love...have to go back further I guess

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:36:12 (EST)
AME - sometimes people move and sometimes technologies move. It is not always possible to decide which happened,. From Mesopotamia to Syria it is probably a movement of people, since they were regions i n touch with each other. Egypt stood more alone, imported glass for several centuries and then figured out (or were taught) how to make it.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:35:22 (EST)
hi Debra

 

 

beaderbarb: - spider-wa071.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:35:13 (EST)
Hi debra

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:35:00 (EST)
hi beader Barb

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:34:16 (EST)
hi people

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:34:08 (EST)
BEADERBARB - Welcome and shame, shame.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:34:04 (EST)
I understand that but what I don't unerstand is if They started in Mesepotamia why wasn't there movement of the peoples and passed on to the surrounding cultures?
I know ignorance is not bliss. :)

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:33:39 (EST)
The tree is pretty, but has been crushed in storage. The folks haven't had a tree for years except last year when my brother's family came from Australia.
About beadmakers: we don't really know about individuals. All we can trace at the moment are technological differences.

 

 

beaderbarb: - spider-wa071.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:33:07 (EST)
Hi I am here... a bit late... Hello Pete and Ame. I haven't been here for a week so haven't read latest... shame on me

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:32:12 (EST)
Pete are you there?

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:31:56 (EST)
The countries weren't really that similar. Glassmaking started in Mesopotamia and was introduced to Egypt later. The Mesopotamian industry migrated to the eastern Mediterranean coast. They tended to be more conservative, making beads by the wound method. Egypt, under the influence of Hellenism began making very different sorts of beads.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:30:22 (EST)
I donated our artificial tree to the Nutcracker my son's in so we are going natural this year.
I think the tree your folks have sounds divine.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:29:10 (EST)
Well this sounds semi dumb but I was wondering the main diffrences and how to's of classifacation of theEgyptain VS Mesapotamia beads.
How do they know the lines of masters were not crossed into these very similar countries

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:26:53 (EST)
What is it you want me to explain? The note on beadmakers in Sri Lanka? What in particular?

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:26:03 (EST)
For shame. The folks were given an artificial Christmas tree made by someone they know. It's got silk roses and lights that look like blackberries.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:25:47 (EST)
I am so relieved I can't say, unless she wants another ne.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:25:13 (EST)
Can you explain a few things from the his. Packet yousent?e

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:25:05 (EST)
I am sure you are relieved.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:24:31 (EST)
Skipped church to do the xmas tree and still haven't doneit!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:23:52 (EST)
The ugly buuterfly is DONE!!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:23:23 (EST)
Pete!! I am here and not a odd child bent on strange talk.
:)

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:22:00 (EST)
How is the ugly butterfy going?

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:21:01 (EST)
Well, hi, Ame. Just get out of church?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:20:24 (EST)
I am hre

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:15:55 (EST)
Well, I've been back a couple of times. A technican at our ISP is standing by, but all I am doing is reading Anthropology in the News and the Hindustan Times. Is no one out there? I'm not going to hang around forever. I'd like to finish Chapter 18 today.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:06:34 (EST)
Well, no one seems to be here. I'll go read an Indian newspaper and be back in a couple of minutes.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:04:56 (EST)
They were, of course, attached to the king, who was no doubt kind.
~

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 16:03:08 (EST)
Hi - I'll start out by telling you what I have just been doing: working on the status of beadmakers in ancient Sri Lanka according to what is found in inscriptions. They are often listed as donors to Bu ddhist monk's caves, in one case donated an entire cave.
Apparently the beadmakers guild built a monastery and successfully lobbied the king to give land for its upkeep.
Some beadmakers attached to the kind died trying to get some stones for their work and were memorialized.
There were at least three beadmaking villages.
Seems they faired rather well in ancient Sri Lanka.
~ Peace
P.S. technicians are standing by.

 

 

Pete: - acc-86.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 15:58:38 (EST)
Phil, I am sorry, but you'll have to go elsewhere. We talk beads here.
~ Pete

 

 

 

Pete: - acc-19.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 14:07:25 (EST)
For those coming at 4 EST today. If there is a crash, just back out and go somethere else (visit TheBeadSite) for about 5 - 10 minutes. If it is the same thing that happened last time I think I can fix it. If it's something else, next Sunday there will be a real techie standing by.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-19.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 14:05:26 (EST)
The program as installed is a chat line, so that is what I am calling it. You may call it whatever suits you. And, yes, people will put graffiti anywhere -- chat line, message board, bulletin board, wha tever.
~ Peace

 

 

: - a20.pm3-30.theriver.com - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 10:49:18 (EST)
EVER GET JUNK MAIL THAT JUST KEEPS COMING NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO STOP IT ? WITH A LITTLE HUMOR YOU CAN LAUGH IT OFF AND PERHAPS THEY'LL GET BORED AND GO AWAY. EVEN IF IT WAS A "MESSAGE BOARD".... ..I AM SURE THEY WOULD STILL LEAVE THEIR MESSAGE. CHILDREN MUST PLAY.

 

 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com: - ts011d04.oak-ca.concentric.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 08:41: 51 (EST)
Peter - If you would just call this area a "Message Board," you would not get innumerable people dropping by and EXPECTING that someone is here "live" and ready to talk-back. Although you think this is a "chat room," after last Sunday, it doesn't appear to be capable of working that way..., at least not for long. Let's see if this happens again tomorrow.

I stand corrected on the date for Sorensen's article in Arizona Highways. Wow! It was even longer ago than I remember. Jamey

 

 

Pete: - acc-21.northnet.org - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 02:43:00 (EST)
ALL - I can understand it when one person accidently wanders into this chat line looking for something else. What I can't figure out is how a group manages to do it all at once. It may have something to do with Search Engine listings, as TheBeadSite.com is constantly being spidered, rated, and listed.
Keith - The article in question was by Cloyd Sorensen, Jr. and was in the June 1971 issue of Arizona Highways. It is itself a collectors' item. It was at the time one of the few sources on beads anywhere, so the story hit a wide information-starved audien ce. How far we have come.
SANDY - Can't tell you about rarity or price, but D.S. & Co. is Daniel Swarovski and Company, the people who make Austrian Cut Crystal.
~ Peace

 

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 22:39:01 (EST)
Heavens wre do they come from?

 

 

Sandy: - abd8a8ea.ipt.aol.com - Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 06:30:26 (EST)
Hi, I need information about old Austrian Crystal Beads from 1950's. I'm told they are rare. They are in the original box which says 10 mm Topaz AB Art. 5301. It has "CORONA" printed on the top left of the box, and D.S. & Co., made in Austria on the bottom.
Another box of crystals says the same thing, but are 10 mm Emerald AB Art. 364 5301.
I would truly appreciate any help with confirming that they are rare, discontinued, vintage crystals, and approx what they are worth.
My email is ratttly@aol.com.

 

 

beadman@jdallen.cnchost.com: - ts002d33.oak-ca.concentric.net - Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 05:0 0:02 (EST)
Sheila - From your description this beadwork sounds monumental. Joyce Scott does not do big work, as far as I know. Her work is more improvisational and suited to be worn as necklaces.

Keith - There is probably no such thing as a "Hubbell" bead. The story that these were turquoise simulants favored by American Indians was popularized by the article Cloyd Sorrensen wrote for Arizona Highways back in '74. It's not a true story, in all lik elyhood. However, so many people now believe in it, we have the situation that collectors want to know how they can tell "real" Hubbell beads from other similar beads. The whole thing is sort of pointless. (Nevertheless, I have some "Hubbell" beads in my collection that I bought in the early '70s, that came from a Southwestern trading post..., for what it's worth.) In addition to such beads as continue to be made by Czech beadmakers (as Peter mentions), there are similar Japanese beads..., and I was told that someone bought these same beads at Venice some years ago (where ever they were made). A company named Merrit Enterprises (now no longer in business) had a large inventory of "Hubbell" beads. When the owner passed on, her husband sold them to a compan y in Sedona. Is that where your's came from? The Merrit beads were certainly similar to what you describe--being many sizes and shapes, and tones of blue or green. Jamey

 

 

Pete: - acc-3.northnet.org - Saturday, December 11, 1999 at 01:22:17 (EST)
DEBRA - Hi. Oh, yes, maybe it is Joyce Scott.
MOTI - Hi. I've probably missed you.
KEITH - You can check it out with the site search engine. There is nothing in the archives of the Hubble Trading Post to indicate that these beads were ordered or even used by them. They are Czech turquoise imitations and are still being made today.
~Peace

 

 

KEITH: - 44.tucson-03-04rs.az.dial-access.att.net - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 18:19:09 (EST)
Hi out there,
HELP, Can any one tell me about HUBBELL BEADS? They were associated with the Hubbell Trading Post, and are glass imatations of turquoise beads. I came into a very large collection, 100s of beads, 40 different colors, patterns and sizes. Some are impossibl e to tell from real turquoise just by looking.
My email address is; hereonow@worldnet.att.net
THANKS
Keith

 

 

Jen: - user-2ivel8p.dialup.mindspring.com - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 18:17:49 (EST)
Debra, I think Joyce Scott is from the Baltimore area.she said, just jumping in...

 

 

moti: - 202.9.133.99 - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 14:09:21 (EST)
HI ! Pete, how are u ?

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 03:44:39 (EST)
hi Pete

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 03:44:14 (EST)
hi sheila
Are you mabye thinking of Joyce Scott?

 

 

Pete: - acc-33.northnet.org - Friday, December 10, 1999 at 01:23:28 (EST)
Can anyone help Sheila?
~ Peace

 

 

sheila rindge: - user-37kasoi.dialup.mindspring.com - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 17:57:03 (EST)
I am trying to locate the name of a beadworker that I believe was featured in Biography magazine. Her beadwork has included beaded fountains with beaded water at New York's Grand Central Station. I bele ive she may live in the San Diego area. I am trying to locate a book which she has written. She has been exhibited at a number of museums and is in collection of many noted persons.

 

 

Pete: - acc-15.northnet.org - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 02:02:34 (EST)
4 pm EST Suday for chatting
~ P

 

 

Pete: - acc-15.northnet.org - Thursday, December 09, 1999 at 02:02:14 (EST)
BEEEDZ - There is a page up now on the reported healing power of mala-power-energy beads. You'll find it in the Uses of Beads section. The new page is going to discuss what might be a rip-off with these beads.
~ Peace

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 22:15:56 (EST)
Bonnie, I've had crystal healing done too, a very good experience. As for beads, I started out collecting things "appropriate" to my rendezvous attire, beads distributed through Hudson Bay trade. From t here I've gone downhill, but my favorites are white-heart type beads and anything cobalt ("sunny day" beads to me!), I also like chevrons, floral fancies, and feathers. Fun stuff!

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 22:12:18 (EST)
Ame, Any luck with Bovis Beads?

 

 

Bonnie: - a33.pm3-24.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 21:46:32 (EST)
Pete, am anxious to hear your opinion on the power beads. I was to a crystal healer in Hawaii (the garden island of Kauai) it was a positive and rewarding "experience".

 

 

Bonnie: - a33.pm3-24.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 21:38:40 (EST)
So what kind of "old" beads do you collect ? Is your supplier in Wisc.? We just got a new bead co. in this area. The lady comes from a big store from Tucson. Hi ame !!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 16:59:49 (EST)
Thanks Beeedz.
I think your addicted!
But so am I so we can kep each other company...

 

 

debra: - 204.77.122.249 - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 15:16:54 (EST)
hi

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 14:20:27 (EST)
Bonnie, that's LAZY stitch!

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 14:19:08 (EST)
I must be hooked on this site, I NEVER go into the web on my lunch hour! (what is this world coming to...)
Bonnie, No I'm in Wisconsin (BRRRRR), but I knew you were in AZ because we have an acquaintance in Tombstone who has the same ISP. I'm currently making a pair of tipi pillows (L-O-N-G lanes of laxy stitch), they are a commission for a friend who has a tip i. I've also made furnishings for my tipi, which we take to rendezvous in the summer. Nothing fancy, I'm still trying to dress it up some! Don't have as much time for beadwork as I'd like. I also collect old beads.
Ame, Bovis is on the web, try http://www.bovisbeadco.com/
I'm not certain that's where my supplier gets her beads, she tends to keep it a secret. But I know they are French, and many of those "old colors" are translucent. The cobalt ones are!
Krystal, this is not a "kinky bead" site!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 12:53:20 (EST)
Thanks for the tip pete!
I will try it! out and see. Thanks for the try.

 

 

Marz: - webh-t-003-p-144-182.tmns.net.au - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 01:29:56 (EST)
hi annie

 

 

Pete: - acc-16.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 01:25:06 (EST)
4 pm EST Sunday. We all chat.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-16.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 01:24:47 (EST)
AME - Sorry, but I can't keep track of what everyone is selling. Did you try BeadRoom?
BEADERBARB - Welcome back. Yes, 4 pm EST is 1 pm PST. Have you checked out "How to Build a Web Site" in the Small Bead-Business Section?
JAIME - In a day or two I'm going to have another Front Page (home page) story about being careful buying Power beads.
BEEEDZ - Thanks for the shopping tip.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 23:56:03 (EST)
I have tried and use bees wax and thread heaven... maybe my kids are just extra hard on my things??
Beedz
I saw the ones you mean they are beautiful but for the project I want to do I need trans or fancy
Is Bovis on the net?

 

 

Krystal: - prx8.qld.schools.net.au - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 23:14:50 (EST)
Hello? Anyone out there?

 

 

Krystal: - prx8.qld.schools.net.au - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 23:14:01 (EST)
Do you do kinky stuff with beads?
Talk to me!

 

 

Bonnie: - a44.pm3-30.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 22:55:55 (EST)
Beeedz, we must be close to each other. Southern Az....Like Tucson area ? What do you make with your beaded leather pieces ? Bet whatever it is must be awesome !!

 

 

Bonnie: - a44.pm3-30.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 22:55:17 (EST)
Beeedz, we must be close to each other. Southern Az....Like Tucson area ? What do you make with your beaded leather pieces ? Bet whatever it is must be awesome !!

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 22:09:17 (EST)
Hello Beaderbarb, it's nice to meet you!
Beaderbarb & Bonnie, I know what you mean about the computer, you can really get into trouble if you don't know when to stop! Fortunately for me, I haven't gotten into buying antique beads on the web or I'd be in deep doodoo!Then there's the issue of the time you can spend surfing.....
Jaime, on this site, there is a Shopping Mall where you can buy beads. Go there, then to Jewelry, and if you scroll down you'll see a site called Merlite. Pete shares some words of wisdom about power beads as well. Maybe they will have what you want?
Ame, I was looking at the Bead Bazaar a few days ago and thought I saw some interesting blues/purples. Also Bovis Bead has some of the "Old Color" beads, I've gotten some from a dealer friend who sells the French seed beads, and the cobalt-colored ones ar e lovely. Also, whenever I use Nymo, I use beeswax, but then I usually bead on leather so it works well for me.
Everybody have a great night!

 

 

Helen: - spider-tf022.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 20:54:45 (EST)
Ame:At the local bead store they said to use Thread Heaven on nymo-doesn't leave a residue either.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 17:53:26 (EST)
LOl Bonnie!
Hi barb wow thats a busy life!
I use the nmo but its so dang slippery! It isn'y upto the constant stress.

 

 

jaime: - spider-wb013.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 16:02:30 (EST)
does anyone here know wher i can buy power beads at wholesale prices??

 

 

Bonnie: - a32.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 14:39:58 (EST)
Oh no.................see how easy it can happen...that is " BEAD HAPPY "...Sorry Pete !!

 

 

Bonnie: - a32.pm3-24.theriver.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 14:39:05 (EST)
Beaderbarb,
Sounds like we are doing the same thing I have slowed up alot also since we purchased our computer. I have been like a little squirell though and packed my nest full of beads, needles, thread etc. for the winter break....Bed happy !! Hi Ame !!

 

 

Beaderbarb: - spider-ta071.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 02:54:50 (EST)
Ame are you still here? What thread are you using? I use Nymo size D and it is pretty strong.

 

 

Beaderbarb: - spider-ta071.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 02:52:25 (EST)
Hi bead brothers and sisters, been a while since I have been here and I'm amazed at all that's been going on. I will try to be here on Sunday. 4pm EST would be 1pm Pacific time, right? I hope the ISP co operates this time. I do beadwork with mostly seed beads, and sell at local craft fairs and Saturday Markets in the summer months. I also have items on consignment in one shop, but sales are really slow during the winter in Central Oregon. I have a friend of over 20 years and she is my partner in beading and selling. We mostly make jewelry for women and teens,(chokers, anklets, bracelets, hair clips and the like) and also love to make more involved creations such as beaded bottles and amulet bags, loomwor k, applique, experimental. Most of my necklace/bracelet/anklet items are variations of stitches found in the book "Indian Beadweaving Patterns" by Horace Goodhue. I'm afraid that since mid-October when I got my computer, I've neglected actually doing bead work and have spent most of my time surfing the web, buying beads and supplies and getting ideas. Now I am gearing up for selling my items on ebaY...so confusing, I think I finally figured out how to upload a picture :0) And I am gleaning bits and pieces of html here and there, hoping to have a website by this time next year. There are suddenly so many resources available (bead and otherwise) I am truly overwhelmed at times... my workroom is a mess of stuff I have printed, even tho I started a filing syst em, now I need a file clerk :o) Want to say hello to Pete, and Nice to meet you Beedze, Ame, Debra, Bonnie, glad to see people coming in on a regular basis and chatting. Hate to post and go but it's way past bedtime.... I will check back Tuesday.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 02:12:15 (EST)
Pete
I noticed in your bead bazarre that there was no purple seeds besides amythist
Did I miss some?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 02:11:24 (EST)
Hello Annie
Hello psycho

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Tuesday, December 07, 1999 at 02:10:53 (EST)
I am still looking for a good strong thread for fringe.
I keep having them broken by little fingers.

 

 

annie: - stm-15-245.tm.net.my - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 23:47:49 (EST)
greetings to anyone out there.

 

 

Pete: - acc-15.northnet.org - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 22:26:16 (EST)
BEEEDZ (and AME) - Yeah, it was just getting good. But it's not the end of the world.
As for BEADS-L, I guess everyone is going to be able to post pictures. Macs and PCs don't usually communicate. Ask Deborah.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 20:54:43 (EST)
Try try again

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 18:46:18 (EST)
Pete, Darn-it! I was all set for a good chat -- that was very disappointing. Hope I can visit on Sunday. I DID get your answer about Recursos, thanks. I guess I should say nicer things about my ISP, her e I was blaming them for the problem!
On another subject, I do have a question about Bead-L. I'm interested in this, but I'm no expert and I also think Deborah may get a lot of self-proclaimed gurus trying to post pics. In between trying to get back into the chat last night, I went to that we b site and the option to download, but I was concerned that the Apple data would screw up my PC -- is this a false concern, in your opinion?

 

 

debra: - lwc105.ixks.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:58:51 (EST)
I tryed to log in to the chat about 10:00pm no luck
maybe next time

 

 

Pete: - acc-41.northnet.org - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:22:01 (EST)
This thing went off before I was ready (I had changed the display default). Anyway, scroll down until you find my second answer to Beeedz. From that point down was the regular chat.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-41.northnet.org - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:19:54 (EST)
Well, the super-bead-chat was going well last night and then all of a sudden it stopped. Several of the more active chatters sent me emails right away. I hung around for about 45 minutes and still could n't get in. Early in the morning (EST) the same thing.
It was a programing glitch. My ISP noticed it this morning because it was typing other things up. It is fairly easy to fix, and maybe if it happens the next time I can do it myself.
Anywy, let's try it again next Sunday at 4 pm EST. This allows the Europeans to come in at a decent time. There will not be anyone at the ISP to help us then, but the Sunday after there will be. We'll give it abother shot.
There is a lot of duplication in the next 40 or so messages

 

 

Pete: - acc-41.northnet.org - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:19:52 (EST)
Well, the super-bead-chat was going well last night and then all of a sudden it stopped. Several of the more active chatters sent me emails right away. I hung around for about 45 minutes and still could n't get in. Early in the morning (EST) the same thing.
It was a programing glitch. My ISP noticed it this morning because it was typing other things up. It is fairly easy to fix, and maybe if it happens the next time I can do it myself.
Anywy, let's try it again next Sunday at 4 pm EST. This allows the Europeans to come in at a decent time. There will not be anyone at the ISP to help us then, but the Sunday after there will be. We'll give it abother shot.
There is a lot of duplication in the next 40 or so messages

 

 

Cristina: - ppp14-nas0.sgp.nettuno.it - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:15:45 (EST)
Hi everyone, I'm Cristina and I like beaded flowers. Could you tell me some site?

 

 

John R.: - quince.northnet.org - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 13:01:03 (EST)
Test

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:36:53 (EST)
Can hold Beads-L talk for later and chat about other topics? My computer response is getting very slow...

 

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:35:56 (EST)
Beedz - Still open, as are most of the workshops, mine included. Go to the Ancient Beads section from the home page. Click their banner; you can sign up on the site. It's going to be a great time.

 

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:33:51 (EST)
Jim, We could have groups in charge of certain key subsets--for example the bead museums.

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:29:51 (EST)
Deborah- I'm afraid I don't have much confidence that there are many knowledgable people, at least not for ancient beads. The other factor is that any bead entered on the database as certain would acqui re more commercial value, so we have to be careful with multiple agendas as people post beads. Excuse my paranoia, but I've looked through the bead listings on eBay, and most of the information is either wrong or very slanted.

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:28:10 (EST)
Beedz - Still open, as are most of the workshops, mine included. Go to the Ancient Beads section from the home page. Click their banner; you can sign up on the site. It's going to be a great time.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:27:23 (EST)
A lot of contemporary beads could be possibly be entered by people who want to sell beads as in a catalogue?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:27:22 (EST)
Are we talking about Bead-L ?

 

 

Beeedz:- mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:27:03 (EST)
How late can one sign up for Recursos? Do most of the seminars get filled up early? I'm seeking a job change and don't know yet if I can go. Motel not a problem -- have a bead buddy in Santa Fe!

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:26:27 (EST)
Deborah - Thanks. The last I heard from her was a postcard from NYC several years ago saying she was into "a whole new thing." Not surpising for her, but where was she?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:26:20 (EST)
Will be interesting to see what ideas develop with Beads-L

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:25:51 (EST)
Deborah- you're probably right. I was thinking that maybe 3-5 people could be authorized to "vet" the beads entered into the database, particularly the historic ones. But maybe that would be too much wo rk for those people, and it wouldn't get done. I don't have a good idea of how many beads people would really send in.

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:25:29 (EST)
Deborah - And who is going to anoint the "experts"?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:25:10 (EST)
Peter, will send you Carol's contact details (she moved again).

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:24:28 (EST)
James - Good title. The time is reserved, we need only make a final decision as to time/place. I'll call Recursos tomorrow. Anything you need to do with them you can do through me.
BEEEDZ - No, they are most text, though a few pictures have come through.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:22:43 (EST)
Interactive would need to have a 'confidence level' so one would know who posted the data (eg 'anyone' would be 0 (zero) confidence and say, if I made the bead, it would be 9 or 10 out of a scale of 10. As long as people were aware of the risks of data quality. Otherwise, I don't think the amount of data required (number of beads) would ever get entered. Also I think there are a lot of knowledgeable people. If an 'expert' reviewed the data and agreed th e confidence rating could go up.

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:22:22 (EST)
Deborah, I'll do the Denver classification on the two melon beads, and find some others to post as well.

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:22:18 (EST)
DEBORAH - Do you have Carol's present address or an email address for her? I have lost track of her.
AME - I quite agree. Your is one of the most evil (for everyone I got 3 return undeliveable messages back from Ame a few days ago, but thy had all reached her. Go figure.)
DEBORAH - Yes. You can get lists on the net. I've got one printed out and it is really handy.
JAMES - Thanks. I've been profiting from your postings, too.

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:22:17 (EST)
Are the postings to Beads-L somewhat like the one Eric recently put on this site?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:21:40 (EST)
ok mine is ging wakoGoing to get off and thencome back

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:21:20 (EST)
Pete- I wrote Hilary tonight about connecting with Recursos to set up the "Bead Classification and Beyond" session. Is there anything else we have to do, and what do you think about the title for the se ssion?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:19:55 (EST)
I'm going to try to do the Denver classification on the two 3-D beads that Dave Wolverton did for my website.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:19:45 (EST)
Be Right Back
BRB

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:19:29 (EST)
This chat line began as four separate ones for beadmakers, bead societies, beadworkers and bead researchers. That was too much, so about 1.5 years ago I collapsed them into one. I am really pleased to s ee how well it has been doin g lately

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:19:15 (EST)
Peter- I think all of your postings to Beads-L have been great, and really appreciate your involvement. Deborah, you mentioned today an interactive bead database, where many people can post beads to the database. I'm feeling like we have to be careful to differentiate beads of a known date and place, based on sound archeologic or other evidence, and beads "said to be" from a certain date and place.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:18:59 (EST)
Pete, sounds like something to check out. I suppose those are the extensions on URL's for exmaple ch for Switzlerland?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:18:46 (EST)
My Isp takes the prize
Trust me.
CCan anyone tell me a good fringe thread?
I have munchkins that keep snapping it.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:17:37 (EST)
Well, I make beads. Faience for example. Got a note from Carol Strick, evidently she gave a program on faience at the Metropolitan Museum. And she also caught up with Robert Liu in NYC.

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:17:28 (EST)
JAMES and DEBORAH - Are you familiar with the ISO-3166 that is used for country addresses on the Internet? Every country designated by two letters. So that when we get ready to place a bead in time and space it could be, for example EGM (Egypt, Modern) or whatever.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:17:22 (EST)
WOW
Sounds great
I wrot down the adddy will check it out later

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:16:58 (EST)
James, I've never been on a chat either. So first time for me also. I don't know if I'll soon get used to the idea of talking to people anywhere in the world like this!
Pete, I've been watching the chatline for quite a while and I think it's been getting more interesting all the time. Sometimes I think people are afraid they will sound weird if they ask questions.
All, our ISP ALWAYS misbehaves. Took me five tries to get on, and wouldn't be surprised if we got bumped any minute.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:16:18 (EST)
I also like vintage beads--estate sales in Pueblo Colorado are great for these.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:16:15 (EST)
I hope type o's at all speeds
Deborah What do you do with beads

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:15:53 (EST)
Ame- Beads-L is a discussion group of bead people interested in bead classification and identification. Deborah started the group, and has been great at keeping it going. Current issues include the diff erent types of bead classif ication systems and what they include, as well as looking at ways to develop a bead database that would be useful for identification. Have I got it pretty much right?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:15:52 (EST)
I also like vintage beads--estate sales in Pueblo Colorado are great for these.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:15:31 (EST)
Yes, I think discussion is heating up--which is good.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:14:33 (EST)
Mine is evil
But the employees are well MOST of the employees are great

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:14:17 (EST)
Hope no one minds typos at this speed. I'm sure to have lots.

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:14:01 (EST)
Beads-L is a project to see if we can create an bead database on the internet. Later check out www.ris.net/~jud

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:13:47 (EST)
AME - It is a moderated discussion list about bead classification. Deborah set it up.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:13:41 (EST)
I am a frequent chatter in another room

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:13:12 (EST)
JAMES - I'm with you. What did you think of my psoting today? I haven't had time to check tonight's email.
AME - But not as evil as yours. Mine is really friendly.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:12:55 (EST)
hello James
Please explain BEADS-L ?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:12:12 (EST)
Mine is miss behaving as well

 

 

James Lankton: - 170.98.2.104 - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:11:51 (EST)
Hello All. This is my first experience in chat room, so it feels a little strange. Peter and Deborah, I think that Beads-L is going great, and as you say, getting lively. I think we have a great opportu nity to lay some groundwork for the session in Santa Fe.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:11:43 (EST)
Be Right Back
BRB

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:10:58 (EST)
Pete welcome to the evil Isp club
Deborah
I work on canvas and make barrettes as well as teach at the communtity schools
Beedz Vintage means old

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:10:02 (EST)
BEEEDZ - It really doesn't mean much of anything. They don't want to say "antique" and not "50s" so they say "vintage."

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:09:12 (EST)
Hi again. I've just gotten knocked off twice again. Don't know what's wron with my little ISP, but it is bad tonight. It is rarely this bad.
DEBORAH - I was composing a note to you about the discussion group. It has gotten lively. What do you think?

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:08:45 (EST)
Anyone, what does the term "vintage" mean in regard to beads?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:08:09 (EST)
Ame, what's your interest in beads?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:07:50 (EST)
No, I'm here!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:07:25 (EST)
Am I the only one here?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:05:40 (EST)
Hi Debrah
Hi Pete

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:04:52 (EST)
Be Right Back
BRB

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:04:51 (EST)
How do you think the Beads-L discussions are going?

 

 

Deborah Zinn: - c1029994-a.pueblo1.co.home.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:03:38 (EST)
Hello, Peter, thought I would stop by to see how it goes.

 

 

Pete: - acc-15.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:02:48 (EST)
BRB? A new one for me.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:01:59 (EST)
BRB

 

 

Pete: - acc-15.northnet.org - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:01:52 (EST)
Hi Guys -
Yes, you are a little early. I almost didn't make it. Took 10 times to dial up. Then I had to upload all the neat new stuff in the Free Store and check that the links were working. 7 or 8 Free CDs now.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:01:38 (EST)
I hope more show up

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 22:00:50 (EST)
hi beeedz

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 21:53:13 (EST)
I think we're rather a little bit early!

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 21:52:47 (EST)
Hi Ame!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 21:49:41 (EST)
I am here for the
chat but I may be a wee bit late.

 

 

: - lon-qbu-bsh-vty75.as.wcom.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 17:22:46 (EST)
Unfortunately your 10 PM EST is way, way after midnight in UK, so we'll have to check the messages tomorrow morning, after they've happened, and then comment on them!
Stefany in London

 

 

annabella: - 129-209-170-209.pm3-8.lv.wizard.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 17:12:12 (EST)
I am driving myself completely CRAZY looking for 3 or 4mm round, smooth glass or composition beads that look like the old Victorian oxblood or even salmon coral. I am brand new to beading...have spent H OURS looking all over the inte rnet...now I am wondering if I am looking for something that doesn't exist. ANY HOPE? Thanks!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 15:52:41 (EST)
Talk to you all tonight.
Juergen hope your there.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 15:52:07 (EST)
Bonnie
Your a very fine person.
A real classy broad.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 15:51:40 (EST)
Bonnie
Your a very fine person.
A real classy broad.

 

 

Bonnie: - a1.pm3-33.theriver.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 14:00:46 (EST)
Just reread my e-mail beeedz....I meant "no" not "know" had a scary situation in our neighborhood last night. Oops !! I do know the right no and when..usually.

 

 

Bonnie: - a1.pm3-33.theriver.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 13:59:04 (EST)
Ame, very slow !! I must go bead "NOW" thanks !!

 

 

Bonnie: - a1.pm3-33.theriver.com - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 13:57:01 (EST)
Beeedz,
Not to be too technical, but perhaps more blonde......I understood exactly what you meant. I had to call 911 last night and living where we do those were the basic directions I gave to them.......it worked !!

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 12:09:14 (EST)
Anyone: Back about 60 messages, I posted some jewelry directions. In them, I made a terminology error. What I called a "bead cap" should've been called a "hinged crimp". I used a hinged crimp with hole, as that's what I had on-h and. You could also use a calotte crimp, applying it after folding the loop over the flattened regular crimp. Sorry -- I was brought up on directions like "turn right at the yellow house with 2 chimneys next to the brown house w ith the dog." br

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 00:49:48 (EST)
Pete, Well, obviously Candy doesn't know what we all know!
Bonnie, What "comes from within" is the BEST stuff! Let me know if you set up a site! Or if you have a scanner, and the time, you could e-mail me a pic? I'm at teton@mhtc.net
Eric, Directions coming your way. Will also send you a pic of a finished necklace; I think it looks alot "cleaner" than with the crimp beads showing.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 00:23:38 (EST)
Hello Bonnie
Hows the amulet bag coming along?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Sunday, December 05, 1999 at 00:22:59 (EST)
Beedz
Thanks for the pic
It helped
I think this requires some practice! LOL

 

 

Eric: - 208.154.200.41 - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 23:34:26 (EST)
Beedz, Could you also e-mail us that drawing, I am also a visual person and would be interested how that affects the finishing of a necklace.
eric.hanssen@cefib.com
Thanks

 

 

Bonnie: - a1.pm3-29.theriver.com - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 23:10:15 (EST)
Beeedz, know I don't have a web site..yet.....Never know what tomorrow brings. Thank you for the compliment. My work comes natural to me. I don't go by patterns of others it all comes from within. Take care. Bead happy !!
Ame, Hello !!!!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 22:25:38 (EST)
hi all

 

 

debra: - lwc187.ixks.com - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 21:24:08 (EST)
hi Pete, are you still here

 

 

Pete: - acc-54.northnet.org - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 21:19:34 (EST)
Sunday night 10 pm EST we all talk.
~ P

 

 

Pete: - acc-54.northnet.org - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 21:19:10 (EST)
ERIC - Welcome back. You're welcome.
AME - Never mind about Candy. She just strayed in and found bads boring.
~ Peace

 

 

debra: - lwc187.ixks.com - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 19:51:42 (EST)
hi

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 15:23:28 (EST)
Lynne
Most libraries carry that mag so check there!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 15:21:42 (EST)
Eric wecome back!
Pete what about Candy? I'm lost!!

 

 

Eric: - 208.154.200.40 - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 13:01:27 (EST)
Hi everybody, back from a week of bush-beating in Western mali.
Pete, Thanks for the PIC post opportunity

 

 

Pete: - acc-23.northnet.org - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 01:38:12 (EST)
We all chat at 10 pm (EST, USA) Sunday.
See you there.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-23.northnet.org - Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 01:37:44 (EST)
BEEEDZ - That's what I'm here for.
~ Peace

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 19:46:32 (EST)
Bonnie, your beadwork sounds very interesting. I'd like to see the way you incorporate those natural materials. Do you have a web site?
Pete, I guess I know where to go for a good, thorough answer - thanks! (study, study, study............)

 

 

Bonnie: - a19.pm3-28.theriver.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 17:37:27 (EST)
...oops, I meant Ellen ...

 

 

Bonnie: - a19.pm3-28.theriver.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 17:36:51 (EST)
Lynne, either find a friend with some old issues of "Bead and Button". Or look further down where I e-mailed Debra, they could also be a great help. Happy beading !

 

 

Pete: - acc-11.northnet.org - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 16:08:03 (EST)
We all chat Sunday 10 pm EST.
~ P

 

 

Pete: - acc-11.northnet.org - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 16:07:40 (EST)
AME - At the moment the chat is scheduled only for Sunday. That can be changed or some people might decide to go on every night at that time. I am usually working at that time, so won't be joining every night.
TOO BAD ABOUT CANDY
BEEDZ - Hard to say for sure. The levels at Arikamedu, India go back to the 2nd century BC, but we had to stop digging because we were well below the water table. I suspect it goes back to at least the 4th C BC. All stone beads there were drilled with dou ble-tipped diamond bits. The importance of India is that it was the source for diamonds in ancient times. Both the Romans and Chinese acknowledge learing about engraving or some such work from the Indians.
A site in Yeman investigated by Gorelick and Gwinnett (these two guys are actually dentists. Gorelick had a large collection of Middle Eastern seals, Gwinnett has access to a SEM (first one I ever saw) and together they have been the pioneers of this sor t of study. They are widely published, especially in Expedition.) Now I've lost my place....
Anyway, they investigated stone beads from Hajar ar-Rayhani, Yemen, that was apparently fairly well stratified. All the hard stone beads in the 4th to 1st century BC were drilled with 2-diamonds. Only some of those from the 7th to 5th C BC were. So 5th ce ntury BC is a likely conservative beginning.
~ Peace

 

 

debra: - lwc154.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 14:00:29 (EST)
I'll see you all on sunday, to chat!

 

 

debra: - lwc154.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 13:46:07 (EST)
hope you'l still here I was only gone a few min's to make some coffee

 

 

debra: - lwc154.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 13:44:26 (EST)
hi Ame

 

 

ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 13:41:51 (EST)
hi

 

 

debra: - lwc154.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 13:32:57 (EST)
hi

 

 

Lynne: - spider-tf053.proxy.aol.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 13:05:42 (EST)
Does anybody know where i can find info. on learning to do coral branch fringe?

 

 

Bonnie,: - a42.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 12:41:08 (EST)
Ellen, if you come back go to www.yahoo.com then to arts, crafts and then click on beads. You will find all kinds of sites for us beaded jewelry people.

 

 

Bonnie,: - a42.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 12:38:46 (EST)
Green.......

 

 

Bonnie,: - a42.pm3-32.theriver.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 12:38:13 (EST)
Debra sounds nice !! I also do alot of the amulets, lighter covers, pen covers, peace pipes with elk antlers leather and beaded places. I f it stays still long enough...Bead it. I finished a bag out of 11/0 beads that are a mixture of dull color greem mixture of beads. Like Indian corn. I used small rattle snake verabre at the end of the fringe and in the neclace part. For the closure I used a small bone that was drilled.....It's my "snake bag"

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 11:09:54 (EST)
Ellen welcome to this friendly place.
Debra
That sounds complex but lovely.
I love experimenting.

 

 

ellen: - proxy-605.public.rwc.webtv.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 07:50:38 (EST)
i make beaded jewelery this is my first time on the internet

 

 

debra: - lwc174.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 05:44:19 (EST)
can I delete that last post?

 

 

debra: - lwc174.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 05:31:55 (EST)
Pete
this is so cool ! I can go back for 3000 messages if I want!
going to try for 10,000 !

 

 

debra: - lwc174.ixks.com - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 04:26:43 (EST)
hi Bonnie
I like to use 11\0 beads in amulet necklace purse's and in
bracelets.
Right now I'am trying to work out something with bezel cups
by making a few small holes in them and puting thread in it,
then I'll put in a stone and use a bezel roller to close it.
And then I'll sew it on the amulet bag.
I would like to use labradorite stones for this and have
transparent iridescent gray beads in the bag part. How do you
think that would look?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 02:30:26 (EST)
So are you planning on this chat at 10 all nights or only sunday?

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 02:29:21 (EST)
Pete
I do shop on line but usually with Shipwreck since I can go there iftheres a problem.
Good point on the moronics. :)

 

 

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 01:28:59 (EST)
PETE - When were double-tipped diamond drills first used?

 

 

Pete: - acc-24.northnet.org - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 01:21:29 (EST)
Join us here at 10 pm Eastern Standard Time (USA) for Bead Chat.
~ Peace

 

 

Pete: - acc-24.northnet.org - Friday, December 03, 1999 at 01:21:01 (EST)
JÜRGEN - I have only seen similar beads in the West African context, never in the Indian. It was not drilled with a double-tipped diamond drill and by the time an Indian bead got to West Africa all Indian beads (from the North or t he South) would have been. West Africa seems most logical to me, but I would not speculate on exactly where or when. I don't know anything about +/- 4000 year old Côte d'Ivoire beads, sorry.
It is more like 99.9% peaceful demonstrators and 0.1% of the oxymoronic (or perhaps just moronic) "organized anarchists."
DEBORAH - I'll look it over. I took today off, the first day in over a month. I caught up on my reading of Inter-Library Loan books so spent the day centuries away. I haven't even answered email all day.
GUYS - Doesn't anyone shop for beads online?
~ Peace

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 19:24:45 (EST)
Beedz
Thats my christmas wish.
Not likely to get it! But I can dream..
Thanks for sending the drawing.

 

 

Bonnie: - a36.pm3-33.theriver.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 19:14:22 (EST)
Debra, hi! What kind of bead work do you do ? What type of beads do you like ?

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 19:07:50 (EST)
Ame: Where do you get that "unlimited expense account" thing? I'll get that drawing sent sometime tonight.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 19:00:04 (EST)
Hi Bonnie
Hi Debra
The best thing in life is a catalogue and a unlimited expense account!!

 

 

debra: - lwc100.ixks.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 17:45:40 (EST)
hi Bonnie

 

 

Bonnie: - a0.pm3-45.theriver.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 16:41:31 (EST)
Juergen,
of corse there is no peace in Seattle. Did you think you were the only one with your kind of attitude....?.... I wish you Peace.....BE HAPPY IN YOURSELF AND THIS YOU WILL ACHIEVE.

 

 

Jhan Knebel: - ospreysystems.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 15:38:24 (EST)
Hey World Bead People! I just sent out the December contact list. Let me know what you think of this format. It is different and should clear up some of the compatability problems (Mac versus PC)

 

 

debra: - lwc122.ixks.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 13:54:40 (EST)
bye

 

 

debra: - lwc122.ixks.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 13:15:02 (EST)
still here

 

 

: - lwc122.ixks.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 13:00:19 (EST)
one of the best things in life is looking at bead catalogs
and a cup of coffee in one hand and a order form in the other

 

 

debra: - lwc122.ixks.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 12:31:28 (EST)
Pete
10 est is a good time, I'll be here!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 12:00:07 (EST)
Thanks for setting a time Pete!
10 EST is great!

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 11:58:38 (EST)
Juergen
I am in Tacoma about 20 min away from Seattle.
I am shocked.
Noone should judge the 99% of the peaceful protests buy the 1% of idiots.

 

 

Juergen Busch: - spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 09:15:40 (EST)
PETE: I assumed that Khambat was meant, because you mentioned "India" and a "late production" of Ericīs bead.
Why do you think Afghanistan is doubtful (as manufactorer?)?
Did they get all (stone)beads from the Indus culture - Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro etc.?
Your guess! where Ericīs bead was made - based on the drilling technic, you said - is a West-Africa. Can you specify the differences in stone drilling technics on ca.+/- 4000 year old beads from the IC and Ericīs "African" specimen?
Though you speculated yourself in your recent posting, I canīt see what is bad about a speculation. If we stop
speculating, we better stop research on any level and topic.
Maybe we just differ in the interpretation of this word!
No-PEACE in Seattle (what could be worse)!

 

 

Pete: - acc-19.northnet.org - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 02:03:34 (EST)
THOSE WHO WANT TO CHAT -- I'll be here Sunday 10 pm.
JÜRGEN - By India I meant the whole subcontinent. I am doubtful of stone beadmaking in Afghanistan; I think most agate/carnelian beads were made in the Harappan lapidaries (very old) and India (more recently, but still 2-2.5K years ago to much more r ecen t times). I can't say more on where I think the bead is from because I don't speculate on these things. I only say what I know or at least am rather sure of. Given the drilling technique I would guess they were made in West Africa. Beyond that I woul d not hazard a guess.
~ Peace

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 01:20:51 (EST)
Send me the drewing beedz
I tried to do it and follow your directions ...not!
LOL
I think I am a visual person.
ameg@tacomaclick.net

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 00:57:08 (EST)
Ame: I don't know if I can explain this very well, but I'll try. Thread the cable through the bottom of the bead cap, then through the crimp bead, then back the other way through the crimp, the bead cap , and the last few beads on y our necklace; keeping the needlenose pliers in the resulting loop, pull the cable through leaving a very small loop; making sure the crimp is down against the hole of the bead cap, squeeze the crimp shut. Then use your pliers to gently bend the loop down over the flattened crimp. If you've made the loop small enough, you should be able to close the bead cap right over it. A little tricky! Then you can attach your jumpring and clasp to the bead cap loops. Takes all the stress off the cable and leaves a very finished look. If this is not understandable, leave your e-mail address here and I'll send you a drawing. Hope this helps you! I likethe way it looks so much better than just the loop and jumpring, that before the last show I did, I restrung all my creations.

 

 

Beeedz: - mhtc-cache.mhtc.net - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 00:28:09 (EST)
Pete: a suggestion, if people are really interested in chatting at a specific time---some chat lines will send an e-mail notice, to those who have indicated an interest in knowing, that there will be a chat held at such-&-such a tim e and date. Sometimes they will even offer a specific topic to be discussed. You probably already know this, but just thought I would mention it. By the way, thanks for the input on the red beads. They are dark red and p robably have been drilled from both sides. Trying to learn more.....

 

 

jetstar: - ip14-125.neto.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 23:01:28 (EST)
Hello fellow beaders! I am in TX. and own a small bead booth in an antique store. Does anyone know which of the major bead shows are the best to exhibit loose beads . Have done Bead Renissance and was p leased, want to pick up a coup le more this next year that would pay travel expenses and yield a reasonable profit. any feedback appreciated! Jetstar@neto.com

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 22:24:11 (EST)
lets have a concensus of the best time of day EST and the best day for those that want to talk
can.
Please state a time or Pete our fearless leader can simply do it and we can work that into our schedules.
Being run over by munchkins here.....I think I am drowning......

 

 

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 18:12:56 (EST)
Eric
saw the bead its very beautiful but I have no clue.
Sorry

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 16:27:49 (EST)
We are here but not at the same time
I saw a great beaded purse pattern book I think its put out by BeadsN things magazine.
Most big book stores acarry it or a very good bead shop.

 

 

Lisa: - clgrtnt2-port-225.agt.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 15:49:08 (EST)
Is anyone out there???

 

 

Lisa: - clgrtnt2-port-225.agt.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 15:46:51 (EST)
Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me with finding patterns for knitted bead bags..purses. I been looking everywhere and can`t seem to find any.

 

 

Bonnie: - a6.pm3-33.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 15:33:05 (EST)
I checked out the rumor I heard and found a new bead store in our area. They are just getting going so will let you know what I find. Our area....40 miles away...L.O.L.

 

 

debra: - lwc171.ixks.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 13:18:28 (EST)
I'll try to be here at the same time every day
so maybe someone else might be here too

 

 

debra: - lwc171.ixks.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 13:13:57 (EST)
anyone still here

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 12:46:38 (EST)
Bonnie
Politness in the face of adversity is always a sign of class.

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 12:08:07 (EST)
I was/ am dealing with Shipreck and they are the ones that told me that.
Maybe they don't WANT to order the color..Who knows?
I couldn't find anything at most of the other bead stores either.
So do you have any suggestions on a place to buy them?
Thanks for the heads up on the Imitation Carnelian..
I was misinformed.

 

 

Juergen Busch: - spider-ta082.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 11:59:25 (EST)
PETE: again I read Ericīs letter on the BCLPP and your comments in brackets. You doubt "Persia" (and also India [what about Afganistan?]), but DO NOT share your own standpoint or assumption on this bead .
What is the question?
- the origin of the stone?
- manufactoring place of the bead (probably the same, or
near the mine, I assume) or
- the culture/area from where those beads were dealt to
(what is now) Mali?

You are probably right that India - assuming Khambat is meant - is not the manufactoring place of Ericīs bead. This guess is mainly based on the quality of the stone (and partly on the shape of the bead), as far as this pic allows a more serious conclusio n.

I expect you to tell us what YOU! think or assume about age and place of origin of this piece.

Please you explain what you meant with: "Agree they are not Indian. They could be much younger"

 

 

Juergen Busch: - spider-ta082.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 11:43:27 (EST)
PETE: again I read Ericīs letter on the BCLPP and your comments in brackets. You doubt "Persia" (and also India [what about Afganistan?]), but DO NOT share your own standpoint or assumption on this bead .
What is the question?
- the origin of the stone?
- manufactoring place of the bead (probably the same, or
near the mine, I assume) or
- the culture/area from where those beads were dealt to
(what is now) Mali?

You are probably right that India - assuming Khambat is meant - is not the manufactoring place of Ericīs bead. This guess is mainly based on the quality of the stone (and partly on the shape of the bead), as far as this pic allows a more serious conclusio n.

I expect you to tell us what YOU! think or assume about age and place of origin of this piece.

 

 

Pete: - a26.pm3-45.theriver.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 10:08:39 (EST)
It's just his thought on the issue being an x-vet..He won't really shoot..

 

 

Melissa: - pbarray02.powerup.com.au - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 03:07:22 (EST)
some body talk to me now!

 

 

Pete: - acc-18.northnet.org - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 01:58:05 (EST)
BEEEDZ - Czech carnelian imitations were usually a dark reddish-brown. When the one end of a stone bead is "blown out" it was drilled from one side only (go to Beadmaking and Materials/Stone Beadmaking) . Most stone beadmakers will drill from both sides to prevent this (again go to the section).
AME - The Czechs tell me they can make any color you want. All they need is 200 pounds (ca. 100 kg) order. I don't think one color is harder to make than the other. It is a matter of demand.
BEEEDZ - Even if you buy from the same company there will be variations. Sample cards often have "Variations in sizes and colors must be allowed." That is, allowed by the buyer. They have carried this warning for a century.
JÜRGEN - Highly unlikely since these areas are not known for making stone beads. Nearly all the hard stone beads in these regions came from India.
BONNIE - Thanks for your input. I agree. About your neighbor: you should move or report him/her to the police.
AND THE REST is too technical for me to understand.
~ Peace

 

 

debra: - lwc108.ixks.com - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 01:19:14 (EST)
hi

 

 

Ame: - robin.tacomaclick.net - Wednesday, December 01, 1999 at 00:18:14 (EST)
Yikes!
I don't think I will be exercising with you anytime soon!
You try it first and let me know how it works!!
Yes , that's my problem area where the loop is taking most of the stress.
Explain again how you finish it off with a bead.
Is it in the loop?
Or do you attach the jump ring to it?
Yes I am indeed confused

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